Sunday, July 09, 2006

Why Did Homosexuality Evolve?

All right, now to start things off with some listener email. I’m very pleased to have received my first critical email. You might think that podcasting on a topic that is so controversial in the popular culture would get me lots of criticism, but I’ve only received positive comments so far. That is, unless you check out the reviews on the iTunes page- there have been a number of 1-star reviews. But this email, although it’s critical, is so polite I just have to share it with you right off the bat.
Dear Dr. Zach,

I hope you are well and your weekend is running smoothly.

The Infidel Guy recently turned me onto your podcast, apparently he holds you in high esteem.

I was excited to hear the gospel of evolution from an educated person, as most of the times I hear it spouted are from high-schoolers and fellow workers, who are innocent in the fact that they believe in evolution simply because it has been crammed down their throats.

I expected your podcast to at least acknowledge the number of evolutionary frauds that have been presented(all of them) and the number of evolutionary evidences that stand before science(none of them).

I was dissapointed to hear your podcast sounds like someone reading a public school text-book. I was hoping to at least hear about microbial evolution or evidences that may be true that I haven't heard of, instead I hear things like, "We Suppose" "The evidence suggests" "The Fossil Record" and I wonder exactly which evidences have solidified your understanding of evolution, because it is all clearly a religion, and the most boring fairy tale ever told, to those of us who understand the theory.

The main evidence that it seems you are relying on for the foundation of your religion is the occurence of variation within a species. The correct term is variation, evolutionists such as yourself have misnomered it to be "Micro-Evolution" so you can piggy back upon something that has actually happened. Micro-evolution(I'll use your word) will NEVER lead to a new improvement of a species or the formation of a new species.

I hope you have a good Sunday, please consider spending it in Church.

Yours,
C.S.

Well, C.S., as it happens I do spend my Sundays in church. Although, I can’t see what that has to do with evolutionary theory. I’m glad to hear that you connected to this podcast through the Infidel Guy- as my long-time listeners know, he was the one who first conceived of Evolution 101. I certainly haven’t had evolution “crammed down my throat” as you say, I’ve been learning as much as I can on my own, since it is so scientifically compelling. Hopefully, I can communicate enough of what I know to creationists who have had nothing but pseudoscience crammed down their throats, instead of real science. I’m not sure which evolution “frauds” that you’re talking about- although I can hazard a guess. Nebraska Man? Piltdown Man? The thing is, these just aren’t scientifically relevant anymore- who do you think recognized them as frauds? Scientists! The only people who are interested in them anymore are creationists, because they think that bringing them up can poke holes in evolutionary theory now. That’s just not the case- if you’ll check out my podcast on human evolution, you’ll see that they’re not even part of the equation. Also, I’m not quite sure why you think I haven’t presented any evidence for evolution. I did a whole series on the molecular evidence for evolution which I’m quite proud of. Evolution is decidedly not a religion- it makes no claims about a deity, its advocates don’t get together once a week to sing songs about how wonderful evolution is, and I don’t pray to Charles Darwin. Regarding “micro-evolution,” actually it is creationists who use this term much more often than those who accept science. I’ve already discussed the reason why there isn’t a difference mechanistically between micro-and macro-evolution, any more than the difference between micro- and macro-economics.

All right, well, thanks from C.S., and now for a more inquisitive question:
The environmental pressures that lead to the reproductive selection of certain changes or mutations seem to be at a very gross level, such as at the level of reproductive success or survival.

How, then, does evolution effect something like eye color, skin color, size, cholesterol production in the liver, the presence or absence of a pinky toe, intellect, etc. that don't seem to directly effect reproductive success or survival? How does/did our body/species select for subtle changes that are effectively invisible to natural selection?

From H.G.

The reproductive success of a population isn't just one trait- instead, fitness is a comprehensive quality that takes into account lots and lots of traits. Any individual trait that gives any reproductive advantage, no matter how small, will be increased in a population over many generations.

For any given trait, we can arrive at conclusions based on what we presently know about the relative fitness associated with the presence or absence of that trait. For example, eye color (essentially the presence or absence of pigment in the iris) has historically been segregated geographically. The lack of pigment (blue eyes) occurs with the greatest frequency in Northern European populations. We know that this region tends to experience less direct sunlight, especially at the higher latitudes. We also know that other organisms that are exposed to very little light also lose pigment over time. This is either because the selective pressure to keep pigment drops (it does cost energy to make pigment molecules, after all) or because there is a selective advantage to have little pigment. Skin color is likely due to the latter- Northern Europeans also lack much pigment in their skin. There may be an advantage to their ability to synthesize Vitamin D in these environments, but I'm not sure if this has been established empirically.

There are some traits that are obviously of no bearing to reproductive success whatsoever. For example, the ability to roll your tongue. I can do it, others can't, and unless it's linked to some other important trait, it seems to be just a weird genetic coincidence. It might be left over from some earlier period in human evolution, perhaps from our smaller, fruit-eating primate ancestors. For now, though, it's a trait that just randomly shuffles through the generations, until some change in our environment makes it imperative for reproductive success.

All right- well that’s enough questions for this week, on to the main topic: why did homosexuality evolve? I realize that, just as with evolution, homosexuality is still somewhat of a controversial issue in pop culture (well, at least in American culture, for my international listeners). But nothing’s more interesting then sex, and what could be better than sex and evolution?

The common argument goes like this: if evolution is true, then only those individuals who are able to reproduce will contribute offspring to the next generation. Thus, individuals who are homosexuals will not be able to reproduce, their genes will not be passed on to the next generation, and so if there is some genetic or biological reason for homosexuality, evolution should have removed it a long time ago.

First of all, is homosexuality a specifically human behavior? If it is a fundamentally biological behavior, there should be some other species which share it. And, in fact, there are close to 500 known species which are known to engage in homosexual behavior, including elephants, dolphins, sheep, bears, deer, rats, cats, dogs, cows, rabbits, kangaroos, squirrels, whales, bats, pigs, mice, goats, as well as just about every other primate. And that’s just the mammals! There are many more birds, fish, reptiles, and even insects which have also engaged in homosexual behavior.

So it really doesn’t seem as if homosexuality is really all that uncommon. But so what? Why should homosexuality be a trait found in so many organisms if it’s so fatal to the evolution of the species.

Well, the answer is, as with most things I discuss here, that sex really isn’t black and white. And homosexuality isn’t fatal to the evolution of species. Remember the definition I gave for evolution way back in the first podcast- “change in allele frequency in a given population over time.” There’s a reason why I specified “population,” and not “individual.” Individual organisms don’t “evolve” any more than a single pixel makes up a picture on your computer screen. What is necessary for evolution to take place is for there to be a group of individuals, a population, within which genes can change and flow.

Now, it certainly is the case that, for most organisms which utilize sex, heterosexual sex is required for propagation. But consider- not all species employ strictly monogamous sexual strategies. For many species, males compete for control of several females, meaning that there are many males who are left out in the cold, so to speak, with nothing but each other and raging libidos. One hypothesis fits this scenario- homosexuality occurs in these organisms to placate the male aggression that is left over after competition for females.

But that doesn’t mean that homosexuality is always a consolation prize. Among the American Bison, male-male intercourse accounts for almost half of all mating, and not just among the losers. Both parties seem to enjoy themselves, with the subordinate male even accommodating the advances of the dominant male. The same phenomenon can be seen in bighorn sheep, where the male being mounted even adopts the arched-back posture called “lordosis,” which is typically associated with the female sexual response. Clearly, these animals seem to be enjoying what they’re doing.

But the males don’t get to have all the fun. Female homosexuality is also common, with female antelope mounting each other in simulation of heterosexual courtship behavior when males are not present. In bonobo chimpanzees, the female-dominated social network is composed of close bonds which are shown by frequent homosexual interactions between female members of the group. In fact, more than half of an adult female bonobo’s sexual interactions will be homosexual in nature.

So how, you’re probably wondering, do these populations ever manage to reproduce with so much homosexuality? Well, the reason is because, as I said before, it’s not that black and white. Sure, individuals engage in homosexuality some of the time, or even a lot of the time, depending on the species. But not all of the time- they still find time to mate heterosexually. Sex seems to be a very fluid trait in many animals- pretty much any sexual configuration that can be performed within anatomical limits is done by some kind of animal. Sorry to say, but although humans can be kinky, we’re just not that original.

Now, you remember that I said that evolution takes place in populations, not individuals? Well, consider the social benefits of a population in which all members can share the close bonds of a sexual relationship, not just males and females. Clearly, in the case of bonobo chimpanzees, the bonds formed between females by homosexual relations are socially stabilizing. A stable society is much more likely to promote successful reproduction of young. Thus, homosexuality would be an evolutionarily beneficial behavior.

But what about some molecular evidence? Well, if you’re hoping that a “gay gene” has been found you’re not in luck. One hasn’t been found, although more and more scientists are starting to look at the genetics of homosexuality. Most likely, homosexuality as a behavior is a more complex phenomenon than just blue or brown eyes- a number of factors are considered- including the number of older male siblings a person has. Scientific research out of Toronto has shown that the more older male siblings a man has, the more likely he is to be a homosexual. The hypothesis is that the mothers becomes immunologically sensitized to the successive male fetuses within her, since they contain male proteins that she is not used to. According to this hypothesis, by the time the youngest male child is being carried in utero, she has developed anti-male antibodies which effectively diminish the normal masculinization process, resulting in a tendency towards homosexuality. But there may be some other benefits to the mother- a recent study from Italy showed that the maternal relatives of homosexual men have more children than the maternal relatives of heterosexual men. If this is repeated, it would suggest that there is a reproductive benefit to women whose DNA tends to result in homosexual male children- they have more children overall, meaning that their evolutionary fitness is actually increased because of the fact that they have homosexual sons. This is a fascinating possibility, especially because a better understanding of the genes involved in this phenomenon could have a major influence on our understanding of reproduction in general, and could point towards some better therapeutic targets for women who have problems with fertility.

All right- well, that was a lot to chew on for this week. To review- homosexuality is not a strictly human trait- it is practiced commonly throughout the animal kingdom. It has a clear evolutionary benefit in that it fosters better socialization among members of both genders. In humans, the evidence strongly suggests some kind of genetic component in the development of homosexuality, although the specific genes have not yet been discovered.

Before I sign off, I do want to make it crystal clear that the discussion here is in no way establishing a moral position in favor of, or against homosexuality. To do either would be to commit a clear naturalistic fallacy- to say that because something is natural, it is either right or wrong is clearly illogical. The moral discussion of homosexuality is reserved for other, non-scientific settings. Thanks for listening, and have a great week. I’ll see you next time.

65 comments:

  1. Zac, on the evolution of skin color, I think the consensus is that it's a give and take between vitamin D and folate production. I wrote a post on it a while back that readers may find interesting.

    ReplyDelete
  2. Nice article. If I can cheekily make a request: faith/religion. I'd be interested to hear an argument for an evolutionary selective advantage for the emergence of this individual/group attribute. I generally find evolutionary psychology and emergent adaptive traits of superorganisms fascinating in a 'not quite sure I grasp it' kind of way.

    ReplyDelete
  3. i found you whilst doing the old 'SASQUATCH' search! ;) GREAT BLOG!!! VERY INTERESTING STUFF GOIN' ON HERE!!! keep it up!! :)

    ReplyDelete
  4. Here's your cheeky faith/religion raison de'tre. Obviously, from reading the buddy buddy we're-all-on-the-same-page chummy place this site is devolving into, and that Geokker feels comfy in his cheekiness by mocking faith, evolution results in people devolving to the point where given a choice, they choose to ignore truth at the religious alter of scientific inquiry and it's dogma, confessions and law. Their brains have devolved past the point of recieving information which could save them and ensure the continuation of the species. For example, you ignorantly accept the ideas of a creation existing without a creator. And vapidly reduce your worldview to examining how homosexuality and evolution explain some deep dark secrets of scientific truth. But you ignore in your hearts the truth which is sitting in plain sight, even in some of your reader's posts. This may sound silly, but if you know that one day you could explore the cosmos directly, but it takes faith to believe that the creator will one day bring you or allow you to actually travel to a distant galaxy on your own power, for example, yet the scientist decides that his limited abilities in the body, that his religion of science has created, limits his travel to the areas that a plane or a spacecraft can take him, he will then ignore the truths of the written Word of God. There will one day be a new heaven and a new earth, and the things that the Lord that created the universe is preparing for us cannot even be imagined. I can imagine a lot of things. But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. Jesus is a stumbling stone and a rock of offense. But God exalts the humble and brings down the proud. The cross of Christ is foolishness to the proud and to unbelievers. But to us that believe, it is eternal life. Did evolution give you such a low capacity brain that you will go on ignoring the Bible or is your scientific brain open to the idea of reading the Bible, cover to cover, to uncover some truths about the creator of the universe you inhabit and love. Your love for the universe might one day result in love for the God who made it! You love inquiry into the origins of homosexuality, but you won't inquire into the written Word of God! You're beautiful and God made you that way, why can't He make an eye? Reading the post that rods were possibly part of the brain and migrated to another area just is laughable. Not because that could have happened, but how could such a complex structure just occur in a brain even to migrate? God made them. Try some reading tonight. Read the book of John and see what God is trying to tell you. Sorry for the length of the post. God cares about you and tries to reach you even through the foolishness of a Christian speaking to the great scientific community.

    ReplyDelete
  5. Thanks for this post! I was curious about the question of homosexuality, so I Googled for it and found this. Nice summary!

    I noticed an error in one of your arguments, though. I have just finished reading Dawkins' The Selfish Gene, which is his argument against group, or "social," selection. He maintains that the gene is the unit of natural selection, not the group or society. The book is an extremely dense, persuasive and comprehensive argument for this distinction, which is widely accepted now, but many people still confuse gene and group selection in casual writing and conversation. Here is a good example of one of the many problems with group selection (as opposed to gene selection):

    If social groups (anywhere from species down to families) were the unit of natural selection, we would expect to see social groups evolve that had male:female ratios of something like 5:100. We would expect this because that is all the males that are needed to impregnante the females, and extra males would just act as social parasites, using up extra food and hurting the survival of the species. Although we do see this type of ratio occasionally in social insects, typical mammal sex ratios do fall at about 50:50. This is because each individual has evolved to propogate his or her genes, even at the expense of the group (whatever size). A mother who wishes her genes to be passed on will want to bear the sex that is the minority, as the minority sex gets used in the most copulation. If there are lots of females, she will "want" to have a male, as this male will get to impregnant many women with her grandchildren. If there are many males, the mother "wants" to have a female, for the same reason. The sex ratio is kept at a 50:50 equilibrium because the genes are the unit of selection, not the group.

    So, your point about the mother who bears homosexual sons having a personal advantage is well taken. The one about the stable society formed from homosexual relationships is a little iffy, though. I highly recommend The Selfish Gene to clarify some of the most ambiguous parts of evolution. It's a great book! Thanks for blogging on this,

    Stephanie

    ReplyDelete
  6. Anonymous4:31 AM

    From your article all animals which exhibit 'homosexual' behaviour are willing and able to mate when the opportunity arises. Thus, like prison fever where males stimulate themselves with other males, once released they perform as men.
    Could this be the clue: Suppression causes an exhibition of odd behaviour?

    As to A stable society is much more likely to promote successful reproduction of young. Thus, homosexuality would be an evolutionarily beneficial behavior.
    You have only to see the self destructive behavior of homosexuals to know this supression, like inverted snobbery, does not promote successful reproduction of young.

    ReplyDelete
  7. Great article, Zac. I wanted to add that homosexuality may have also evolved because at times, some humans had no choice but to surrender to each other. The following could have happened in communities where there were either equal male to female ratios, or where the males exceeded the female population. For a population where male to female ratios were equal, since more often than not, the time for mating is ultimately decided by females in almost every species, [humans, mammals, and most insects (even nats are choosy)], males worked to attract females with their winning traits (whatever winning traits these particular females were looking for) and would win over as many females as they could to mate with (not just one). These winners would take all the females and protect them from the "losing males" which left them out in the cold (for the time being) and no recourse but to engage in homosexual activity. This happened in every group of people and hence created and evolved a genetic trait. However, every now and then of course, the "losers" would win a few females over and reproduce. Then, the others would be losers and be forced to engage in homosexual sex until they could win again. The reverse could have happened in communities where there were many more females than males, and in that case the females were forced to be only with one another. In this male-scarce community, the competitive traits women evolved to protect their male partners from each other may have also developed. Thanks, Maggie.

    ReplyDelete
  8. I seem to have stumbled upon this blog (and this one post in particular) well after it first appeared but am still compelled to comment: Evolution For Everyone by David Sloan Wilson is the book that inspired me to do some casual research on this particular topic, and I would recommend it to any and all who come across this page to give it a read.

    ReplyDelete
  9. C.S. has some very good points. As the "evidence" for evolution is sorely lacking (the only thing we know about the missing link is that it's missing), it takes more faith to believe the theory of evolution than creation. Indeed, science is observation and, as evolution has never been observed, it is not science. Theory, hypothesis, fairy tale or religion yes. Science, no. What is termed micro-evolution (small differences occurring within a species) is simply adaptation, not evolution. No new genes are introduced. Existing genes are simply muted (or turned off, as the geneticists say)and other previously existing genes turned on. If it is, for example, a dog we are talking about, it will always remain in the dog kind for all generations to come, even if a new species of dog may occur through such adaptation to environmental change. The case of a dog becoming a cat or a horse (or a monkey a man) has never been observed and is, therefore, best left to the realm of fiction. It cannot be claimed to be science, no matter how badly we want to believe it, because it has never been observed. More specifically about homosexuality, the Bible account provides a far better explanation. Aberrations of all kinds, whether sexual or otherwise, are due to a fallen creation, because of the sin of its central character, man, who rebelled against God. "All of creation groans" as the Good Book says under the weight of this sin, including the animal kingdom. This is a far simpler and truer explanation than the incessant gymnastics of twisted reasoning and constant rewriting and revisionism that characterizes evolutionist dialog (the comments on your blog being a good example of such fanciful, do-it-yourself theorizing - who needs evidence when you've got an appealing religion?)

    ReplyDelete
  10. The argument here is that there is an evolutionary reason for BISEXUALITY, about which dozens of supporting points can be made. Problematically, though, all the areas of analysis hinge on heterosexual coition as the basis of human sexuality. This article simply does not address HOMOSEXUALITY, which is when an individual is sexually attracted STRICTLY to other individuals of the same gender. Please, please, please, please comment on this.

    ReplyDelete
  11. I hope you're right about there being no difference, mechanistically, between micro and macro economics.

    John Maynard Keynes, the founder of macroeconomics contrived the model of macroeconomics that is completely irreconcilable with microeconomics. Over 80 years later, his ideas are still popular, even though microeconomics would call them ridiculous.

    Great piece on evolution.

    ReplyDelete
  12. From an evolutionary standpoint, nobody cares if homosexuals contribute to society, their genes don't get passed forward. That's the feedback that makes evolution work. It's genetic capitalism, what's good for the individual is good for the whole not the other way around

    ReplyDelete
  13. It has been long before I can find some useful articles about glasses. Your views truly open my mind.

    I like your ideas about eyeglasses online and I hope in the future there can be more bright articles like this from you.

    This eyewear article is definitely eye-opening and inspiring.

    I really like this cheap eyeglasses article, and hope there can be more great resources like this.

    Your do have some unique ideas here and I expect more prescription glasses articles from you.

    Great resources of cheap kids glasses! Thank you for sharing this with us.

    Great article, it's helpful to me, and I also like the useful info about child glasses.

    This is the best kids sunglasses article I have ever found on the Internet.

    I greatly benefit from your articles every time I read one. Thanks for the unisex glasses info, it helps a lot.

    I love this unisex eyeglasses article since it is one of those which truly convey useful ideas.

    Excellent point here. I wish there are more and more metal eyeglasses articles like that.

    I appreciate your bright ideas in this plastic glasses article. Great work!

    I am glad to read some fantastic plastic eyewear article like this.

    We share the opinion on titanium eyeglasses and I really enjoy reading your article.

    Good job for writing this brilliant article of aviator glasses.

    Bright idea, hope there can be more useful articles about aviator eyewear.

    Thank you so much for sharing some great ideas of wood-like eyeglasses with us, they are helpful.

    What an inspiring article you wrote! I totally like the useful rimless glasses info shared in the article.

    You have given us some interesting points on rimless eyewear. This is a wonderful article and surely worth reading.

    I totally agree with you on the point of wood-like eyewear. This is a nice article for sure.

    ReplyDelete
  14. Anonymous7:18 PM

    I have never read so wonderful article before,I have learned more after read your article,thanks a lot!By the way,we

    sale the best shoes in my onlion shop.it will give your live lovely.
    tn requin
    nike shox r4
    nike shox running shoes
    lyle and scott wholesale
    mbt walking shoes
    cheap ed hardy

    ReplyDelete
  15. Anonymous12:30 AM

    I have learned more after read your article,welcome to see our websit:
    http://buy-ed-hardys.com/edhardys/

    ReplyDelete
  16. Anonymous12:31 AM

    http://acrosstheboard.blogspot.com/2005/12/1-on-1-with-jenn-sterger-exclusive.html

    ReplyDelete
  17. http://www.tnchaussurescom.com

    ReplyDelete
  18. This is a great article, supplies the useful information for me, thanks in this

    soft sofa
    http://www.eyousofafurniture.com/Soft-Sofa-41.html
    soft sofa
    Modern-stone-sculpture
    http://www.stone-trading.com/Modern-stone-sculpture-53.html
    Modern-stone-sculpture
    products
    http://www.winning-billiards.com
    billiards products
    Long span shelving
    http://www.supply-racking.com/Longspan-shelving-c12.html
    Long span shelving
    baby strolle
    http://www.baby-trolley.com/baby-strollers-c1.html
    baby stroller
    oil paintings
    http://www.art-oilpaintings.com/
    oil paintings
    outdoor ceramic tiles
    http://www.supply-stone.com/outdoor-ceramic-tiles-249.html
    outdoor ceramic tiles
    casual shoes
    http://www.casual-dresses-shoes.com
    casual shoes
    oil paintings
    http://www.all-paintings.com
    oil paintings

    ReplyDelete
  19. I generally do not post in Blogs but your weblog forced me to, amazing work.. beautiful.
    carpet cleaning gilbert

    ReplyDelete
  20. Anonymous7:20 PM

    When I see your article, I really agree with you about the blog.I think people will know this after read the information.

    ReplyDelete
  21. Thanks for the articles. It's so can be increased my knowlegde about this..
    Indonesia Siap Bersaing di SERP | Rumah Mungil Yang Sehat

    ReplyDelete
  22. Anonymous12:07 AM

    Klin Issue:chi flat iron
    6 clunkychi flat iron boots not want the

    Show your spicy sidecheap ghd straighteners with the soles of the parts, high on style.

    See our favoriteUGG Classic Flower boots wedge heel shoes.

    All of our favorite fall trends guide.

    ReplyDelete
  23. Fine article. Since reading E. O. Wilson's "Sociobiology" I have that what he calls "kin selection" is a driving force.

    Anything I can do to help my siblings pass on their genes will be selected for. If my own children share 50% of their genes with me, the offspring of my siblings each share 25%.

    If some people are more nurturing than others, if they help their sbs to successfully reproduce, or even help their parents have more children, then tendencies toward that behavior should be passed along as well.

    I believe I have read that men who are celibate and enter the priesthood, are overwhelmingly represented by younger sibs rather than first-borns.

    And priests are usually given very high status in their communities, and garner more than their share of resources, they are more able to help their brothers and sisters reproduce.

    In this way, "kin selection" may be a major factor in passing along traits associated with celibacy.

    --Scot Morris

    ReplyDelete
  24. This Nike Shox NZ shoes Nike Shoes Us for men features all the elite cushioning properties of the Shox running shoe series with the added bonus of fresh new colors and textures.Unique lacing system improves the fit.
    Nike Air Max Shoes Padded heel delivers a comfy, snug feel.The Nike Shox NZ Men Shoes series with the added bonus of fresh new colors and textures. "Nike air max 2011 With superior cushioning technology it will keep you comfortable and supported, and with rubber outsole the Nike Shox NZ will be more durability and traction.


    Nike Air Max 1
    Air Max Griffey 1
    Nike Air Max 180
    Nike Air Max 2009
    Nike Air Max 2010
    Nike Air Max 24 7
    Nike Air Max 87
    Nike Air Max 2011
    Nike Air Max 91
    Nike Air Max BW
    Nike Air Max Plus TN
    Nike Air Max LTD
    Nike Air Max Boots
    Nike Air Max Presto
    Nike Air Max Skyline
    Nike Air Max Turbulence
    Nike Air Max Fitsole
    Nike Air Max Goadome
    Nike Air Max Zenyth
    Nike Air Max Wildwood Supreme
    Nike Air Max Zoom Kobe
    Nike Air Max Shoes.

    ReplyDelete
  25. I'm actually pretty happy with these, I was irritated with having to scroll down to the bottom to reply, and the phishing report link is nice too.register website domain

    ReplyDelete
  26. It¡¦s actually a great and useful piece of information. I am glad that you shared this useful information with us. Please keep us informed like this. Thanks for sharing.
    drupal website developer

    ReplyDelete
  27. Good.It has been long before I can find some useful articles about laptop battery . Your views truly open my mind. I really like this dreambox 800s article, and hope there can be more great resources like this. What an inspiring article you wrote! I totally like

    ReplyDelete
  28. joker โบนัส100 เครดิตฟรี เล่นง่าย ได้จริง slot online
    https://www.slotxd.com/jokergaming123

    ReplyDelete
  29. pgslot เครดิตฟรี เกมสล็อตอออนไลน์ เว็บไซด์เกมออนไลน์มหาสนุก
    https://www.slotv9.com/pgslot

    ReplyDelete